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Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley


I want to buy a good and complete organ that allows me to play realistically from Bach to Franck, and I am hesitating between these three sample sets; Goerlitz, Armley and Laurenskerk. I have discarded Caen. I can only have 32 GB with an 8-core processor and 4-channel surround with three keyboards. I would have to reduce the number of registers and channels in 20b. Can someone give me their experience with these Organs?
by biogon
Mar 25, 2019 09:08 AM

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RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

Hi,
I don't want to cause more doubts, but have you considered OAM Poblet? It's a modern, versatile Metzler-organ and it's been skillfully sampled by Prof. Maier. It has shown to be my every-day-set.
Best regards,
Stephan

by Steph75
Mar 25, 2019 01:46 PM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

Concerning your selection I think that the Laurenskerk-set is closest to a universal organ, especially if Bach is the centrepiece of your repertoire. I like Mathis-organs (we have two in our city), but when I tested the Goerlitz demo I had to find out, that the keys are not evenly sampled - just my experience on my system.

by Steph75
Mar 25, 2019 01:53 PM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

I have Goerlitz and Rotterdam, and did for a while have Armley. Late last year I sold the Armley licence.

For the repertoire you've listed, I'd go for Rotterdam.

Andrew

by Andrew Grahame
Mar 25, 2019 06:33 PM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

A further comment re Rotterdam - I also have 32 GB of RAM. I need to load this carefully to fit, and at present I'm loading it at 16 bits. It is possible to fiddle around with how it's loaded, but 20 bits is possible depending on how the variables are managed.

by Andrew Grahame
Mar 25, 2019 06:35 PM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

Steph75 wrote:

Hi,
I don't want to cause more doubts, but have you considered OAM Poblet? It's a modern, versatile Metzler-organ and it's been skillfully sampled by Prof. Maier. It has shown to be my every-day-set.
Best regards,
Stephan

Hello
I listened to Poblet's organ in the Playlist and 90% of the works performed are of German, French and Spanish baroque. I find it limited for the French romantic, with few stops of 8', an Unda Maris as celleste and without expression pedal. It seems to me an organ with a Baroque personality, and maybe I prefer St. Omer. Also it is not available in 4ch surround, only wet 2ch.
Well, it is a cheaper option, the Göerlitz and Laurenskerk are very expensive and I can not use all its possibilities.

Thanks and best regards.
Jose Luis

by biogon
Mar 26, 2019 06:15 AM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

Steph75 wrote:

Concerning your selection I think that the Laurenskerk-set is closest to a universal organ, especially if Bach is the centrepiece of your repertoire. I like Mathis-organs (we have two in our city), but when I tested the Goerlitz demo I had to find out, that the keys are not evenly sampled - just my experience on my system.

Hello
I have only tried the 10 stops of the organ demo of Görlitz and, indeed, I have found some notes inside a stop with different timbre, rather pipe tunning than sampling problem.
But the sound of the Görlitz organ is rounder and with less scratchy baroque sound than the Laurenskerk and, for my taste, better to play the French romantics. Without detracting playing the flutes and mixturs with Bach. In addition, the Dutch organ has fewer stops in 8'and absence of celleste stops. Certainly it costs half that Görlitz and hardly I can use all its possibilities with the 6 surround channels.
I thik than St. Omer could be other cheaper option.

Thanks and best regards.

by biogon
Mar 26, 2019 07:09 AM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

I have 64GB of RAM and I cannot run Görlitz in full... otherwise it would be the best option for sure...

by Pavel
Mar 28, 2019 04:18 PM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

Pavel wrote:

I have 64GB of RAM and I cannot run Görlitz in full... otherwise it would be the best option for sure...

Of course, you don't have to load all six channels. I use diffuse+rear in my recordings and love the spacious sound. Many people, including Carson Cooman, use just diffuse (the room is very wet, so there is plenty of acoustic even without rear samples).

That said, if you follow the advice Jiri gives on his website and truncate the direct sample releases, it will fit in 64GB at 20-bit lossless compression. I did this for demo purposes before deciding that I could get a nice effect with just the four channels, saving disk space and loading time. For a more direct sound, you might like the direct+rear configuration, too.

Perhaps listen to some of my Goerlitz recordings in contrast with Carson's and see if you hear the difference between diffuse only and diffuse+rear. And, if you go back to the time the model was launched (or visit Jiri's site), you can hear demos of the six-channel model using the truncated direct samples.

by Hoofdwerk
Mar 28, 2019 05:05 PM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

I coped with 24Gb RAM on the Laurenskerk as I didn't load many reverb stops. I have Poblet Laurenskerk, Caen and the Armley, but the Laurenskerk is my favourite. It it the most versatile but thrilling set. The reverb on the Poblet can be distracting on some pieces but give you a license to slow down.

by unclegally
Mar 30, 2019 08:56 AM

RE: Goerlitz , Laurenskerk or Armley

unclegally wrote:

I coped with 24Gb RAM on the Laurenskerk as I didn't load many reverb stops. I have Poblet Laurenskerk, Caen and the Armley, but the Laurenskerk is my favourite. It it the most versatile but thrilling set. The reverb on the Poblet can be distracting on some pieces but give you a license to slow down.

I am deciding on the Laurenskerk, although I have some doubts in its use;
Since it does not have Gedakt or Bourdon 8 on the main keyboards, it would be necessary to couple it from the 4th keyboard. Sonus Paradisi also comments on some problem with the coupling of the 5th keyboard (Chamade). It also does not have Celleste records, although I have read that the multi-rank registers of Principal have Chorus, and it is also possible to make a detuning of some stop.
I tried the DEMO with Surround 4ch and I have arranged to imitate the reverb of the rear channels with the reverb of my MOTU 828 module, and it is difficult to perceive the difference; this would save me half of the memory by not loading the rear samples. Too bad SP does not have only the wet version for sale.
I have seen that the organ set Dudelange from VOXUS would not have any of these problems, although it is more with romantic-symphonic accent. But its price in wet version 2 ch is as high as the Surround of SP Laurenskerk set.

by biogon
Apr 10, 2019 04:20 AM

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