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URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)


I'm sorry to bother everyone with this again,
Today my swell pedal that I bought from MIDIworks arrived and I tried to connect and play it.
I did and Hauptwerk detected it, but as soon as it did it stopped recognising my actual pedal board, that I bought from MIDIworks aswell, I tried everything but it just wont detect my pedals even after I disconnect the swell pedal, my MIDI hub shows signal when I press the pedals and when I stop pressing them, which means that it does get healthy signal from the pedals, same with the swell pedals.
Also when I try to use the swell pedals it presses random notes on the pedal and, also when I move the swell shoe at some points it does the inverted action which I cant figure out how to solve.
please help me, I use the MIDI hub that they use at MIDIworks so the cables etc are not the problem.
Regarding my previous post, re connecting and resetting the pedals didn't work, so that's still a problem too.
by RRKdudas
Jan 13, 2019 02:53 PM

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RE: URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)


Hi, I think that you should try to fix the pedalboard problem first. Probably it is the same problem of swell pedal, because they share the same Midi Output and the same Midi/Usb interface. Am I right?
by rmanzanog
Jan 13, 2019 08:43 PM

RE: URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)

rmanzanog wrote:

Hi, I think that you should try to fix the pedalboard problem first. Probably it is the same problem of swell pedal, because they share the same Midi Output and the same Midi/Usb interface. Am I right?

Thanks for the reply,
Yes they do share the same Midi output through the same interface

by RRKdudas
Jan 14, 2019 10:43 AM

RE: URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)


May be the problem is the interface, please see next forum.
http://www.arvydas.co.uk/2013/07/cheap-usb-midi-cable-some-self-assembly-may-be-required/
by rmanzanog
Jan 14, 2019 11:21 AM

RE: URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)

rmanzanog wrote:

May be the problem is the interface, please see next forum.
http://www.arvydas.co.uk/2013/07/cheap-usb-midi-cable-some-self-assembly-may-be-required/

The interface was another problem back when I bought the pedals, but I spoke to the tech support at MIDIworks and they recommended me to buy the same interface that they use, so I bought it.
It works great and it fixed the problem I had with the pedalboard, so I'm not sure that this is the case

by RRKdudas
Jan 14, 2019 11:40 AM

RE: URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)


I don't know for sure that you are doing this, but it's worth mentioning first. You can not 'hot plug' with Haupterk, it does not support it. In other words don't attempt to disconnect and re-connect any MIDI cables while Hauptwerk is running. I'm thinking the problem is when you auto-detected the swell pedal that perhaps you may have just accidentally clicked in the wrong area on the screen and chose that the swell pedal and the pedal board to control the same? This could happen if you thought you clicked in the right place on the screen to auto detect the swell pedal but by accident you just clicked in the wrong area and Hauptwerk is thinking you are trying to auto detect the pedal board again. If so, once you move the swell pedal, Hauptwerk is then going to assume you now want the swell to do the controlling, hence the random pedal notes you are getting.

I'd start by clearing the MIDI settings and start over. First, click on the virtual pedal board being 100% sure it is the pedal board you are detecting, hit the lowest and highest notes and click 'done.' Then, click on the virtual swell pedal and sweep it though it's range and do the same. If any message comes up asking you if you want it and the other to control the same then you again have Hauptwerk thinking you want both the swell pedal and the pedal board to control the virtual pedal board. To be sure you have not accidentally clicked in the wrong area, you should not get any message asking if you want both to control the same. Hope this helps.

Marc
by 1961TC4ME
Jan 22, 2019 12:57 PM

RE: URGENT HELP WITH MIDIWOKRS PEDALS (AGAIN * 2)


How did you configure the shoe once you connected it to the pedal board? The manual on the MIDIworks site lists several options. The shoes are called Analog Inputs.

Also, I suggest that you download the MIDI Medic program from their site if you have a PC computer. We have an church organ that was updated with parts from their Classic Organs side and use that program to verify that the MIDI data transmitted from the rebuilt console is as expected.

Our Great keyboard utilizes MIDI channel 0, the pedalboard is on 1, and Swell is on 2. Our Swell shoe sends the MIDI string B2 0B xx where xx is the value of the 'volume'. I have observed that value ranging from 05 (full closed) to 7B (full open). This is similar to the MIDI volume string used on my E-Mu Proteus keyboard which uses Bx 07 yy where x is the MIDI channel and yy is the volume setting.
by tmbland
May 5, 2019 01:14 AM

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